Woo-hoo, no need to remove a concrete foundation! Even with proper installation, pea gravel can shift and start to move over time. You are building a flagstone patiojust use stone. But when you want your walkways to stay in place, the round and easily moveable shape of pea gravel could be a problem. My search for this is not yielding good information. Also, are their any loose flagstones? Is there a solution I can spray on and use myself? In fact.whereas I am opposed to using cement in the joints, especially if there is no concrete foundationi can at least see a reason to use cement there: trying to avoid weeds, and looking for a stable joint. It consists of small, rounded stones and is commonly used for high-traffic areas due to its smooth finish. The modal window is a 'site map' of the most critical areas of the site. Gods peace. Basic advice can be free but you worked hard and long to get those skills and knowledge. This sounds like an ambitious project. All the flagstone is stable and still level. We are getting ready to install a flagstone patio a step down from our front porch. One web site even suggests a 1/3 dry portland cement/breeze mix, to then be gently soaked with water that would harden up. I like this idea but they are quite an expensive solution to fix this $32 load of gravel 2. Install another 46 tons of gravel, this time the appropriate 3/4 minus, angular crushed stone with fines. Any suggestions on how to keep it from washing downhill? The existing patio settled in some spots, so im planning to regrade it with new stone dust to keep it pitched away from the house. Any suggestions? You can also sprinkle cement over gravel to reduce sliding and shifting. Jim. Pea gravel walkways are relatively low maintenance. Do you use cold chisels or is a hammer enough? Are there any key steps Im missing? Maybe %90. I can confidently So glad I found your blog, almost as much as finding a buried 1220 flagstone patio in our backyard! Get some cement , not sand mix or concrete . Wait, wait, youre saying lots of stones move when stepped on. Polymeric sand is sand with an acrylic binder added. Their concrete was too wet and/or they overworked it, troweled it too much and brought too much water to the surface. The larger material will help to jam up the drainage-cut, making it so less fines settle down below the concrete, while still letting water drain. Is this stone in question local, or otherwise desireable to you? Im not sure what was put between them at the time. So my answer involves work. I want to use decomposed granite or a similar natural product, other than sand, that is tan in color instead of grey. I live in mid-state NJ and had a 17x30 ft. bluestone patio installed over a previously existing concrete patio base. Great! I researched the heck out of polymeric sand, and tested out three different kinds. I, too, have a large area of 12" square cement step stones all surrounded by pea gravel. Please advise what to do. It absolutely does seem counter-intuitive to introduce plastic to a landscape; thanks for articulating this so well. Sounds like a winner, right? We had flagstones placed in our outdoor shower about 5 years ago. As mentioned in the article right above..I go with screenings. Otherwise, the DG gets everywhere. The other site is wrong. First of all, thanks for the fast response. Then I carefully used light spraying of water over the joints ensuring they were fully saturated to the full depth of the joint. Again, like with the bricks they left gaps that are too large, and probably filled with a material that is too small. I used baking soda on my patio to kill weeds. The cobblestones..1 inch gap sounds large. I live in the the finger lakes region of New York. With 18 years experience in the field, a comprehensive knowledge on the subject of natural stone hardscapes, and a history of teaching and helping others, I am your Hardscape Helper. Allow the walkway one hour of drying time . We suspected that the sand had to be replace or refill/reapply, we just didnt know what was causing what we were seeing. If not then feel free to contact me via emailI know a guy who is awesome at this type of work! Purchase screenings at a landscape supply store or at a quarry. One thing I forgot to ask originally was the issue of freeze-thaw cycle and the potential for the limestone to hold water and then potentially crack the flagstone. The previous comment about the smaller stones becoming loose made me wonder if using the red steppers will work. Stiffin it up a bit so it's not so loose. Stays slightly flexible so it doesnt crack ((yes.it cracks, sometimes)). Location: New England. Flagstone: what to use, sand, cement, or gravel? Take it dry and rake it in with the pea gravel , you dont want too much cement sitting on top . And Ive had to repair and replace many such patios.same effect happens when someone decides to cement together the cap of a dry stone wall. Anywhere that sells gravel/sand/mulch, usually. The stones are fairly thick, 2-3thanks. Some joints are huge with tiny stones sort of floating in concrete. And if you think this would work, what proportions ? Wide flagstone joints are okay.if you plan on planting say irish moss or clover or something. Thats not a problem for stone dust, whereas poly sand, in a shifty situation, will crack up and be a problem. Theyll sell it in the masonry section at depot/lowes. Id prefer to NOT use itbut, i also dont want my son dragging infinesin his shoes and adding more character to our inside floors.So, if i go Screenings insteadplease let me know if you feel this is a good materials plan: 225sq.ft @ 4 fines/3/4 gravel base= 5.5 tons of fines/gravel base (Then, if i have stones from 3/4 2 thick variancehow much do you recommend in screenings for 225 sq.ft?I appreciate all your insight and feedback. We are tracking all the dirt and rocks in the house. Not familiar with that product. I do know it's pretty spendy. I never recommend sealing flagstone. water@tramfloc.com; Fax 480-383-6895; Call us! Installing loose pea gravel is relatively simple compared to other hardscaping materials. Hi Devin, Thanks for the amazing article. I used the granite sand as my leveling layer, too. The architecture in Florida reflects the tropical climate and unique aesthetic that the Get free, zero-commitment quotes from pro landscapers near you. Fact is, no one really uses it, so I never encounter examples of good, or bad installations using the product. Kristi. Do you know if one can expect the haze to slowly fade away over time? An experiment that would be worth a try would be to sprinkle a few cups of cement on a few square feet of pea gravel, rake litely, and mist thoroughly a few times. Old timbers get new life as a decorative element in a cottage renovation. The joint however stays put.now you have a hollow void, either underneath the stone, or just beneath the joint. Absolutely. The gravel in some places is as much as 4" thick, so removing it is really the last thing I want to do. If the stones are set upon a concrete foundation: mortar, as addressed here. No maintenance issues there. I plan to move every stone out to the opposite side and keep the pattern intact. The decomposed granite in the second link also looks right, but it will probably cost more. Dig, then tamp, then lay roadbase gravel (3/4 minus). I wouldnt bother with the cement What youre describing probably isnt causing harm, but stone dust alone will do the job so why add cement? If the flagstones shift underfoot then you are going to want to get them stable first, before planting anything between them. Heres the quick story: Ive reclaimed enough of the small pieces from borders created by the previous owner. Were expanding the deck so were going to rescue the patio and relocate it. Id make the stones fit well first (assuming that the polymeric sand users left big gaps like they usually do), with a half inch (or so) gap between the stones. I had thought pea gravel would look great, but I was scared off by the instability issue. Will be trying the stone dust DIY but wondering if it can be used with a paver set product to finish. Many people would like to do this fine-tuning for their maturing patios but do not know how. Pleas re-read the above article, for my thoughts on that! Montana and Pennsylvania both have serious winters, that cause soils to heave and settle. Then, pour about three inches of pea gravel on top of this base layer. Problem. Sometimes its better to just remove big chunks and replace with new poly sandor remove ALL of the polysand and replace with stone dust, or, more polymeric sand if you must. You may have to wait a few months since he is sought after like that, but he, does travel to new jersey. Maybe half of those patios also have limestone screenings as the leveling agenthalf an inch to inch and a half limestone screenings beneath the flagstones as well as an inch or so on either side of the stones (the joints)never once have I seen a freeze-thaw issue, or any cracked flagstones on any of these jobs. I cant and dont use Round-up type products, so thats a plus, but I also want to keep the structure stable and level as lots of kids run through the yard. Brett in Millersville,PA. Bravo to this article and its author, Devin. I like the idea of the screenings but do we now have to remove all of the sand? Good question. This was done to lower costs, and because the pond area wouldnt receive heavy foot traffic (so we werent worrying about people kicking the stone dust out with their shoes) and also because we wanted a looser look, around the pond. This includes gator dust and any other type or brand of polysand. Yes, he was almost certainly talking about screenings. So, if that patio is dry laid, then I would remove the material from the joints at the same time I was pressure washing the stones surface. Others, with a concrete border. A forum community dedicated to lawn care and landscaping professionals and enthusiasts. I was thinking something like this might work. 2 or 3? A professional, who will talk with you on the phone, and walk you through the process of laying flagstone, repairing flagstone, or any other such situation? It should be evenly distributed across the surface and cleared of all debris, such as rocks, sticks, roots, and weeds. Im replacing an existing paver patio that was installed on a gravel/stone dust base with flagstones. I dont want to discourage you, and I totally think you can do this. Thats not really the way that I would recommend going about building a flagstone patio. Re-read the article please Actually, Ill go back and edit, put a few words in bold and make it a bit more clear. Thanks for your colorful commentary and your insight (with years and years of experience). Seriously, that will not go over well at all. To see pics of out slate patio and other recent landscaping projects, ck out my Picture Trail: Here is a link that might be useful: look at Landscaping Projects 2007, Favourite ROSES We Grow albums. IDK what the limestone flour only material is you speak of, but you should be able to find proper screenings/grit/decomposed granite/8th inch minus/crusher run/etc in your area, under one name or another. But on a dirt foundation, to set flagstones in a bed of cement based mortar, just doesnt make sense, for use with flagstone. Anyway, I like to set flagstone on a foundation of road base, also-known-as 2A/modified gravel. Thank you Devin for this, preparing to put in quartz flags in Colorado over clay soil, gravel base, love this long term solution you provide with decomposed granite for leveling and filler. Though it may require some maintenance, down the road. Most polymeric sand manufacturers offer at least two colors that match 95% of the interlocking pavers on the marketplace today: tan and grey. Dear Devin, Great thread. To decrease the gravel carried away by any runoff, you can also add drainage trenches to your pea gravel installation. Lets examine these advantages one at a time: Related content: One on one help is available. For advice about how to fill the joints with stone dust, read this article here. Clean off dust and lightly dampen the old cracked polymeric sand. Your email address will not be published. Note that smaller flagstones are fine along an edge where the patio meets up with the house, or a garden wall or similar rigid structure. Decomposed granite is crushed granite. As such, it handles the Pennsylvania free-thaw rather well. We do have what is called shaker sand which is a combination of sharp sand with some pea gravel mixed in (pea gravel that was smaller than normal and was screened out from the normal pea gravel. Take your time and get out what you can. My stepdad used to buy something called tufa that he would put on paths to the horse barn to keep them from getting muddy. Shady area you say? This will stop the problem of decomposed granite clumping. Remove all the polymeric sand from in between the flagstonesget it all out of there. Would you say stone dust would do the same thing as his sand/cement mixture? We have 4sands as sub grade than we use Belgard permeable pavers that has 1/2 gap in between, and filled them in with 3/8 gravel. Im glad I read this and plan to steer well clear of polymeric sand. My front walkway and patio stoop are on a concrete base and have a tan mortar between the flagstone joints. Step 1 - Prepare the Patio Measure the area of your patio that contains the pea gravel, and use this measurement to order the correct amount of binding solution material needed. Screenings are heavier than regular sand, thus theywill not wash out quite so easily. Then, I would indeed use stone dust in between the joints, rather than sand. You may get away with 2 or 4 inch jointsbut it will work better with stones fit more tightly than that. No problem. Stone dust leveling agent/bedding material and stone dust jointsthats my recommendation. You are so kind to answer so quickly and for the method link. Nor would I use any sort of caulk. Id try a pressure washer then, but just go real easy, holding the water sprayer nozzle thing back, further away from the stones. Well obviously thats absurd. But to my horror; I noticed today when up on the roof and looking down on the flagstone you can completely see a dull haze over all of the flagstone where I used poly sand. As such, my recommendation is clearstay with the decomposed granite! My contractor is out of business so I cant even get hold of him. But yes, for a DG path, a border or edge material is generally necessary. Do I just mortar the joints nice & tight and call it a day. Thats the basic formula. Not too wetjust wet enough to be sticky. What I was wondering was if you could spray a water proofing like what is used on cement to settle the dust and smaller stones down and and keep them in place. Pea gravel is highly desirable as it is versatile and cost-effective. Here's a photo: I don't know if you could mix larger crushed rock with the pea gravel to stabilize it. I have a flagstone walkway with the stone separated by 3-4 inches (anything closer would be considered an impervious surface and restricted by zoning due to coverage restrictions so nothing to be done about that). Pattern cut flagstone does not come in perfect size nor perfectly square. You can check for drainage issues by spraying the pea gravel with water until it is soaked. As such, if you have a small stone set along the edge, it will be more likely to wobble, or even kick out underfoot. Should I just wait until it dries out? Hi, the home we own in Colorado has a really large flagstone patio but the previous owner never put in any fillers. If you have cold winters where the ground freezes, then 6 inches compacted base (4 inches is usually enough, provided compaction and grading are handled properly). I would like to use something called a tumbled Colorado Red Stepper which is relatively small compared to other stones. If the stones are set upon a gravel foundation: 1/4 minus. My concern is two fold. I plan on using a thicker layer of concrete sand below the stone, (up to six inches); thick enough so that it accommodates the irregular thickness, and providing me a flat stone surface on top. No more cats, WOOHOO! Patio is sloped but not very much. Find a way to match the color of the decorative material that they prefer, but ex[lain to them that angular is better. Everyday of my life, theres someone asking me what to do about their 8 inch wide flagstone joints. Make your joints tighter. Good luck! Remove excess residue with a leaf blower. One stone at a time. As far as the gravel goes, crusher run is the stuff. After 4 months, it starts to have wavy driveway. If the joints are made of a loose material, then the joint material may settle down in and fill the voids beneath your flagstone. I realize it would be better to remove everything but Im not up to doing that. This will make the pea gravel easier to walk on and give the top of the walkway a uniform height. consider setting up a phone/email consultation with a professional stone hardscape instructor. 3. Is it well compacted? JavaScript is disabled. Often, gator dust is used by contractors who set the stones 3 or 4 inches apart, and that usually causes problems. And your case however what youre suggesting sounds like a good idea remove the soil replace with stone dust and then watch C if the flagstones dont get as dirty afterwards. This, I believe, answers your need for a walkway where most of the gravel stays in place, yet is still permeable. I had Arizona Flagstone Rose laid as a patio with 1/2 spacing. Come join the discussion about performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! Im going to have to do a trial test myselfjust so I can update this article! Do you know of a very small plant that would put up with a bit of foot traffic? Use a leaf blower on a low setting to remove small bits of screenings that havent settled all the way in yet. Additionally, the stabilization method will depend on what your final product is going to be. Where do you buy the screenings? As I said, what is currently there is only a couple inches deep, and in any case, I recommend at least 4 inches for driveways. Thank you. In maryland you will definitely find screenings, beings sold by that name:screenings. After excavating the area, pour in about three inches of a base layer of crushed rock. Worse, ants love it. The patio comes off the basement door and is surround on three sides by 4-5 retaining walls, and had a 4 drain in the pave patioit was sinking especially around the drain. Ohyoure saying the flagstone patio is dry laid and is adjacent to the mortared step and walkway. Still, a leaf blower is your best tool for clearing pea gravel, since . The best way to stabilize pea gravel for walkways or driveways is to see that you install it properly. Do you have pea gravel? Thank you for bringing that updecomposed granite is yet another name for stone dust. You can see the low spots where the water pools. And thank you Good luck with your flagstone project! I had been tempted to use polymeric sand, but plan not to use it now. I keep telling people, if you put your flagstone on sand, then what youre doing is inviting ants unto your patio! Now what? Hi Devin I have a bunch of slate (and some stone) paths, patios and stairways, a lot of which I have built, and while they are largely stable the crushed stone I used in the joints (which matches the slates) sometimes washes out of the steeper areas especially on the two long stair paths. 6 inches if youre expecting a lot of traffic. Devin, Before my enlightenment my aha! https://www.envirobond.com/professional/envirosand/, https://www.landscapeandgarden.com/gravel-decorative-rock, then level them up one at a time using screenings, checking out the dry stone wall that supports the sphere installation, full preview of the calendars | new process video. Luckily, there are many ways you can stabilize pea gravel on walkways and driveways. I used stone dust under as a base and then screened gravel (sand). To solve this issue, apply WD-40 after wiping off the bottom of the tamper. Also, in your article about using gravel, can you use AB3 or Crusher Run? Void forms beneath flagstone.joint settles in and fills that voidthen you top off joint. thanks. Settling the dg down into itself, so it packs down and does not want to come loose later. I appreciate your guidance. adding polymeric sand to pea gravel can help keep the gravel in place. Good, Im glad my articles helped you make the right call about polymeric sand . (even non-shrinking exterior grout). A gap that small can be left open. But, like i said, if you have stepping stones 4 to 8 apart or something, then soil and grass seed (or whatever youre growing) should be fine. Or any Masonry supply place. And the answer is alwaysmake them flagstones fit tighter! Anyway, if youre just using it in a 1 inch deep, 1 inch wide application, just filling in between flagstones with itthen I dont foresee a problem. Having not seen the patio in question, I really cant say what is best. I really don't know what I'm doing so any tips are appreciated. Would combining the dust with some finer particulate 1/8 limestone be better? Come to think of it, one of the private residences in Colonial Williamsburg has a stabilized pea gravel front walk. If its dry laid, then everything should be dry laidno cement based products. Sorry, I was out of town and away from my computer when you posted this question. If you simply spread out pea gravel on top of the ground, it will start to shift and move quickly. I did find limestone screenings on this website: http://www.greenbuilderssupply.net/pr_bulk_materials_dumping.htm. 2.5 inches over a ten foot span will be enough, provided there are no major dips. We are in Ontario, Canada. As such, I wouldnt really consider a dry lay option on top of old concrete unless the customer very much wanted it, and unless the flagstone itself were going to have a really tight fitting joints for example if it was going to be a pattern cut, square and rectangular flagstones with minimal joints then, if the walkway is pitched strong enough there really is not much way for a very much in order to get down there in the first place. Theres no type of soap that will help, wirebrush does nothing at all. I already clear out a 15 X 15 for my back patio. Devin, Im looking to refill gaps in a flagstone patio that are pretty larger ranging form 1/2 to 2 inches. Everywhere where theres a quarry, youll find this product.perhaps with different local names. Screenings is used as both the leveling agent and as the joint material. I have to explain to them that I dont just go to the freezer and get food, I actually have expenses, commitments and work that they dont have and if they want free food, they can go out and buy a farm and do all the work for free! It would drain away but I assume some of it may get tracked into the pool. We just put in a flagstone patio using decomposed granite in between the stones. Nope, no good. Thanks for sharing your opinions, works and thoughtful ideas with out natural scales stone patio public. Good luck! If you set your flagstones upon a gravel foundation/on a bed of sand or stone dustthen fill your joints with stone dust. Wanted to check with you the cheapest way to do it under 2K if possible? Hi I wish I could afford to hire you! Hi helpful article- thank you. I would of course not recommend it, for reasons outlined in the article above.well, it wouldnt be my first recommendation anyway. You simply sweep the material into the flagstone (or other paver) joints, lightly hose down, then it solidifies. I wish I had read the forum BEFORE listening to the landscaper. Theres white screeningswhich is more a cream/off white color. Felicity, I am not sure what ochre stone is but I went to a "stone retailer" and explained the problem. Hey Jeff. Some of the stones now have a haze on them. https://www.devineescapes.com/flagstone-what-to-use-sand-cement-or-gravel/. (The previous owners thought a pea gravel front yard would be nice as well - so I already have that on my plate to remove).I was wondering if anyone has tried to stabilize pea gravel using concrete sand, DG, or other material and tamping? This is a BAD thing. If you live somewhere with winters, then it will crack up faster. Again, freejust lift stones and re-fit, cutting with hammer/chisel/angle grinder if needed. Stone dust, for life. 2" joints may be too big for polymeric (read the bag/box). it will likely stay glued to itself.but the bricks or stone that it is set amongstthese will not be clean surfaces. It is also nice to know you are willing to travel if I have a job in the future that meets your criteria! Im thinking you could take a concrete saw and just run one cut down the middle of the trench. I prefer smaller joints. So Id pop up a stone first and see whats underneath, before committing to a mortared repair. If the foundation is nominal, then there may be shifting. So far we have tried aggressive scrubbing test areas with soap and water, aggressive scrubbing with a 50/50 bleach mixture, and also with a powerful house siding cleaning mixtureall with no luck, the same haze remains. Id love to get your opinion, my gut tells me to stay with DG. It is easy to apply, environmentally friendly and allows water to percolate. On the other hand, if you are using gravel on a patio, it is best if the pea gravel is completely immovable. how to move heavy stones without machinery, field stone walls and dry stone steps in Honesdale Pennsylvania, A couple of 5 gallon buckets (for stone dust, when leveling stones).shovel, wheel barrow..4 level. Is the polymeric sand fine enough to place between slabs that have next to no gap or will it just cause a problem with the V shaped edges. Even less worried about it, if your area does not freeze during the winter. Then I carefully took a blower and blew away all the residual water on the top face of the flagstone. Main problem I see so far is that those are pretty thin flagstones for dry laid. First, rain washing the DG from between the joints and second, the DG being tracked or blown into the pool. That number will improve, over the months, as stones settle in. Starting with a base layer that helps resist flooding problems helps stabilize the pea gravel by offering a firm supporting surface. Use a roller to compact the gravel, which also helps with stability. Free Store Pickup Today. . Life happens. Sorry for the type Os..obviously Flagstone and Stone Dust sorry. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. The joints average about 4-5 inches (way higher than your recommendation) and its too late to reduce the joint spacing, since they have already been laid. The Patio is shaded except during the winter. It's been over 5 years, and still doing good, although I've had to add a few bags of mulch here and there. . First, you will measure the area and check you have the correct amount of binding solution. Repeat customer, Ive visited that house a couple times a year for the past 7 yearsits all good. 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